
“Fuck ‘Em!”
A simple phrase. A simple embellishment to a classic, otherwise unadorned, pair of jeans. “Fuck ‘Em!” sets the tone of the APC/Supreme collaboration.
The minimal embroidery could be read as lazy. It could be viewed as the ultimate in the over-hyped, under-developed product that frequently infects our small space in the garment trade. Or, alternatively, the collaboration could be seen as the most brilliant satire.
That is how I look at the jeans.
Neither brand needs the other. The best collaborations, those that really ring true, are driven by a meeting of minds and a sharing of expertise. APC needs little by way of marketing push. Supreme handles denim quite successfully alone. Both outfits, therefore, are in the enviable position of actually being able to have fun.
Of actually being able to say, “Fuck em!”
The disease of “Brand 1 x Brand 2 = $$$” so often bothers many voices within the industry. Whether the production of a vapid graphic tee or some uninspired linkage of “cool guy” and major corporation, this trend in collaborative marketing has succeeded in eroding the great benefit of cooperative creation.
The history of collaborative product is long and not worth full repetition here. In a recent blog entry on Selectism, Bejamin Vergnion outlined some of the fashion world’s forays with the auto industry. The likes of Pierre Cardin, Gucci, and Levi’s all added a certain degree of style to car interiors in the 1970s. We’ve witnessed a glut of artist commissioned sneakers, as well as a small vs. large brand mash-ups designed to extend the reach of both.
Market reach, more than anything else, serves as catalyst for the majority of collaborative works. In design and presentation, this subtext is only thinly veiled. A quest for authenticity – a seeming requirement – has become ever more difficult. Unless the connection dovetails smoothly, the collaborative product ends up raising more eyebrows than it does raise profile.
Another element of the issue comes in coverage. Often when brands do authentically work together, the popular notion of collaboration skews interpretation of the true intent. The work of two companies together remains as simple as sourcing. I had the opportunity to chat with the guys behind SeaVees (Derick and Steven) recently and asked if I’d misread the connection with Gitman on a forthcoming shoe. They explained the connection comes in supply, and also in sharing expertise. Becoming interested in bleeding madras, SeaVees reached out to friends at Gitman. They worked together (and as such, in a collaborative way), but the end result is not a collaboratively built product – rather it is one of sourcing the perfect material from noted experts in the field.
Commonly, bags and accessories are produced in the same fashion. Duel branding often complicates the issue, but more often than not a backpack or tote produced by one company for another is mostly about ensuring the best quality. Our recent interest in construction, manufacture, and origin makes the duel branding more appealing, but it is still at base a story of people understanding who is well suited to helping realize an idea.
And here, we reach a sort of new collaborative language X ‘for’ X. Again, this stems from an interest in manufacture and origin. A desire to tap heritage. To tap into generations of amassed knowledge.
These are good things. They help consumers to understand the craft behind the products they buy and reintroduce the idea that the maker is valuable. Sometimes, this can bore. Quoddy, for example, seems spread a bit thin making shoes for so many. Tricker’s in the UK falls under the same spell. The double edged sword being that while brand owners and consumers are more interested in manufacture, their research and development efforts are still tightened by the market reach type of collaboration that helped limit the excitement of streetwear.
And so, we return to Supreme. Undoubtedly, they are the kings of collaboration. Not only do they push beyond what others are offered (for example, playing with sneaker models otherwise locked to the average brand/retailer), but they take risks as well. When they play with the major corporations outside the scene (i.e., Budweiser), there’s something so tongue-in-cheek about the celebration of America that end product becomes a footnote to a larger cultural story. Supreme is aware, and aware in such away that collaborative product is akin to an art project against the clean and simple nature of the core line.
With A.P.C. the collaboration speaks to shared understanding of both scene and industry. Again, it is almost tongue-in-cheek. An expensive, and expertly arranged joke. Nothing to gain. Nothing to lose. Everything in the palm of their hands.
- Nick Schonberger, Socialconsumer.com
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Clean. Classic.
nice talk
Yeah, useless collabs should be ditched! There are some that are good but the Supreme x A.P.C. collab is just purely uninspired!
Oh yeah, you’re wrong on a little sentence there, Undefeated is the king of collaborations.
Fine, but you dont say anything new here. No offense, I dont mean to be rude.
It’s been topical for a long time within the marketing/consumption/branding field.
It’s a scholar topic.
Even Businessweek has written about that : http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jul2009/sb20090710_255169.htm
I know Highsnobiety readers are not Socialconsumer readers nor Journal of Consumer Research readers, but isn’t it a “too easy writing”?
Wearing jeans that say “Fuck Em” across the ass… might as well be asking for getting ass fucked.
I couldn’t disagree more. I feel like this collaboration represents an extremely low point in street fashion. Something needs to change.
street wear was cool back in the early nineties before the internet when all you really had was freshjive and stussy. the whole point was to look different. having a million different brands now waters the whole idea down. street wear had its place in time and is done now. it should really more appropriately labeled “blog wear”.
Totally agree with MarcBT here. First potentially interesting article I’ve read on HighSnobiety in 5 years of reading isnt even written by them.
The piece says nothing new – disappointing given the supposed excellence and heritage that HighSnobiety should claim to have given how long you’ve been “in the game” and been reporting (sorry, cut-and-pasting press releases) on collaborations.
BTW, anyone who fears wearing “fuck ‘em” on your jeans is going bring to question your masculinity, you should probably stop spending so much time on fashion sites.
If I wanted to wear APCs, I’d wear APCs. I don’t see what Supreme brings to the table here except for a bump in the price tag and that aura of “I camped out for these!”
To CK. This article IS written by HighSnobiety. Socialconsumer is a side project of HS Editors Jeff Carvalho and Nick Schonberger. It may not be anything new, but certainly a first in this arena. I look forward to more.
Yeah, not sure where you get the idea that the article was not written by us, CK? Nick is one of our editors since a long time and wrote the article specifically for us. Opinions on the subject might vary, but the article has fulfilled its purpose 100% from our point of view – it created an interesting discussion around the subject. It is not about taking sides, but having a valuable discussion in our space, which unfortunately does not happen too often. It can be positive or negative, just needs to make sense and in that case its a success. We do not need everybody to agree with us, in fact its much more interesting if it is the contrary.
To Clam Sauce: I agree that the high times or innovative times of the streetwear as we might see it now have passed. At the same time the space is still very interesting, just with new brands. By new I do not mean new t-shirt brands, but maybe the Wood Woods, Vibskovs, Common projects, APC, etc….
I think you mean “dual” branding. If not, draw!
Very well written, Nick!
To be honest I hated the APC x Supreme colab…didn’t make sense to me at all, but reading this article it rings a bell. It’s just the way you look at it… they’re always two sides.
Still not gonna buy it.
To add some thoughts / opinions about the collab’, I’d say there is an important gap between my expectations and the reality. And not in a positive way, unfortunately.
And I’d say I’m more disappointed by Supreme than A.P.C. since my attitude toward the former is more positive than for the latter.
A.P.C. quality has worsened a lot and has become too popular for me (I’m from Paris where there is about 5 stores). I do love their jeans, best quality considering the price in the industry.
But Supreme is popular but only graphic tees / caps / shoes (collab’) but jackets, shirts etc, are still edgy and well constructed.
My point is there is no added value in this pair (I’d rather not talk about the tees…). They are able to do jeans and as good as APC ones, so what is the point of doing that?
Just a friendly fire and a way as you said Nick, to meet the consumers of the other brand. Purely marketing, nothing about “savoir-faire”.
I was a bit too negative in my first comment, I’d rather read an article written with the idea of opening a debate than a simple news.
a ridiculous piece with the ridiculous price!
remember jean touitou said in an interview, collaboration for him is nothing to do with building buzzes over the market. he, or his label, attempts to take advantage of the technique from the other brand. Yet, what we saw here is all about profits! isnt it? goody-goody!
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