Comments on: Grace – The World’s First e-Motorbike

By: alv

alv — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:09:42 +0000

to DtEW… please read FAQs before you state such unqulified statements.
i.e. FAQ regading Batterie @ GRACE HP…The 2009 replacement cost is approximately €900 although this cost is likely to decline in the future. Charging speeds and overall capacity, however, is likely to increase in the future. The ESSM is expected to last at least 500 charging cycles. Next generation cells will be easily retrofitted into the frame with about 2 hours of manual labor.

By: Colmilludo » Blog Archive » GRACE - THE WORLD’S FIRST E-MOTORBIKE

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:18:38 +0000

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By: DtEW

DtEW — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:30:55 +0000

Style-over-function at its worst to appeal to the Sharper Image crowd.

Everything about this “e-motorbike” screams “electric motor + bike”, not anything remotely motorbike. Whereas that’s simply marketing over-reach, I think the worst offense is that the designer/builder took mountain bike parts (wheels, brakes drivetrain, etc.) and designs (diamond frame, steerer/stem/handlebar, etc.) and chose to build his own proprietary solutions (fork, headlight) to problems that didn’t need solving, of course for a hefty upcharge.

If somebody is going to argue that “normal MTB parts can’t handle the stresses and demands of the e-motorbike”, then I will laugh at him for:

1) Being a fool completely oblivious to the stresses that DH bikes can suffer at speeds of 40-60mph, slamming through boulder gardens, and taking/landing multi-story jumps, and the designs/constructions that have arisen to deal with those needs, plus everything in-between…

2) Being a fool for believing that a designer can out-design, out-engineer, and out-tune established mountain bike suspension manufacturers (Fox, Marzocchi, Answer, etc.), most of which are also motorcycle and racing vehicle component companies.

3) Being a fool for failing to see that MTB designs and standards (steerer + stem construction, MTB tires + rims) limit the performance envelope of a road-going “motorbike”. A higher-performance road-going electric motorbike will look more like… a sport motorbike (*gasp*), with a much burlier frame, single-pivot monolink rear suspension, smaller wheels, bigger tires, etc… like the Mission One EV.

In all cases, for just being a fool.

And did anyone consider that by incorporating the batteries in the tubes, this makes battery swaps difficult-to-impossible? Rechargeable batteries degrade with time and need to be replaced, as all hybrid car owners know. Whereas the obvious solution was to mount an external battery pack (which also allows center-of-mass of the vehicle to be tuned), the designer went for design-over-function.

By: Grace e-Motorbike Claims Street-Legal Status, Boasts Sleek, Indestructible Design | CoolThings.com | Anything and Everything Cool

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:08:40 +0000

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By: David Fischer

David Fischer — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:41:49 +0000

Trust me, not cheap at all and nothing like any battery powered bike that we have seen before!

By: Jorge Omega

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:45:11 +0000

Whos the ignorant hypster that post this…

The finishing of the bike looks cheap, and quantya is the first brand that started with electric bike’s.

Electric bikes exist sinec bateries exist

Nothing new………

By: Shock Mansion Entertainment » Blog Archive » The World’s First e-Motorbike

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:51:50 +0000

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By: Carlos

Carlos — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:08:22 +0000

Hallo Grace Freunde,

ist ja ein sagenhaftes Gerät, wo kann ich das probe fahren?
Sieht aus wie ein Mountanbike, ist ein Motorrad, kann auch als Fahrrad dienen, oder?

Gruss Carlos

By: The World’s FIRST e-Motorbike, Grace, travels up to 45km/h. | NO BUNS NO LIFE

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:13:51 +0000

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By: Selectism | Around the Web | Selectism.com

Selectism | Around the Web | Selectism.com — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:51:22 +0000

[...] “Going a bit into a different direction, we show you one of our favorite upcoming toys – the Grace e-Motorbike. It might look like a futuristic version of a regular bike, but it is actually the world’s first e-motorbike that you are allowed to ride on the street. The bike comes with a patented aluminum frame and can go with one battery load…” (highsnobiety) [...]

By: David Fischer

David Fischer — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:15:51 +0000

Good point… but this thing looks like a lot of fun. Cannot wait to try it out!

By: Dade

Dade — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:58:34 +0000

Ummm shouldnt he be wearing a helmet?