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Back in 2003, the classic sketch comedy series Chappelle’s Show premiered on television and Kendrick Lamar was known as K-Dot — he also happened to release his debut mixtape Y.H.N.I.C. that year. Fourteen years later, comedian Dave Chappelle had the opportunity to interview the rap star for Interview magazine.

The conversation touches on a few things they both have in common, such as being black and famous, their love for hip-hop and that trip to Africa.

Kendrick Lamar points to that trip as his I made it moment. “I went to South Africa—Durban, Cape Town, Johannesburg—and those were definitely the ‘I’ve arrived’ shows,” Lamar says. “Outside of the money, the success, the accolades … This is a place that we, in urban communities, never dream of. We never dream of Africa. Like, ‘Damn, this is the motherland.”

Lamar also spoke on how his fans dissect his lyrics and interpret them, “Everybody has their own way of hearing songs. My fans are usually pretty on point. Sometimes they go all the way to the bottom of it,” says Kendrick. “It’s fascinating to me how far an idea can go. I wrote most of my first album in my mom’s kitchen, and now I can go around the world and hear people recite those lyrics, and understand the story, even though they’re not from the same area I grew up in.”

You can read the full interview here then after, here’s the full list of cities for Lamar’s DAMN. tour.

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