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The latest episode of David Letterman‘s new Netflix series My Next Guest Needs No Introduction is out today, as we’ve been blessed with one final preview with JAY-Z. Here, we find the rap icon dishing on his sometimes tumultuous relationship with Kanye West.

“That’s my brother,” JAY insists. “We’re beyond friends. Like literally, my little brother is Kanye. And like your little brother, things happen sometimes.”

Hov then went on to speak on how siblings often times experience a falling out, but that doesn’t change their relationship at the end of the day. He also detailed a story from before Kanye had even put out a record, where ‘Ye insisted that he was the savior of Chicago. Very Kanye, right?

Nonetheless, press play above to hear JAY-Z and David Letterman discussing Kanye West, and hit Netflix for the entire episode.

Now, find out why JAY-Z’s public support of his mom is a huge deal for LGBT rights.

Not NYC, not LA.

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