In a new interview for 032c, Virgil Abloh sat down with Kenyan runner Eliud Kipchoge to discuss stamina, innovation and the overlaps between fashion and running.

Kipchoge was the winner of yesterday's Berlin marathon, finishing the 42-kilometer race in an insanely fast two hours, three minutes and 32 seconds — coming short of the world record by just 35 seconds.

Speaking to 032c, Abloh discussed the similarities between their two industries. "I think both sport and design are projects rooted in a human quality," he said. "I have similar dialogues with kids who have a passion for design, and I think it’s part of this new generation of sharing."

"I also think of the brain as a muscle," Abloh continued. "Creative problem-solving is an exercise — you can’t simply be noncreative for three months and then sit in a brainstorm session trying to merge ideas. Like any profession or passion, it takes a number of skill sets."

Kipchoge revealed that running can be a form of collaboration: “You share ideas. You compete inside the course. And, after the finish, you shake hands and life continues.”

At their meeting, Abloh also presented Kipchoge with a custom Virgil Abloh x Nike Zoom Fly SP, with the sole bearing both the athlete's surname and his finishing time in black sharpie. Read the full conversation here.

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