Filmed at Cole’s The Sheltuh studio in North Carolina, the hour-long interview features both rappers sitting on a couch, surrounded by music memorabilia and touch base on a variety of topics.
The two kick if off with a positive note, as Cole and Pump both acknowledge that people will be surprised to see them together, and Cole shares how he and Pump addressed the tensions between them, which eventually led them to squash their beef. Cole originally thought Pump might be have been trolling him during their initial phone call.
“We ended up speaking on the phone,” he reveals. “Somebody called my phone and you was there with them. I ain’t gonna lie, I thought you was trying to set me up or some shit. I was like, ‘Yo, he’s 17 and a massive troll.’ I think you wanted to FaceTime right?…Cause my album had just dropped like a week before that, so I thought if I FaceTimed you, I thought you’d just screenshot that shit and go right to Twitter and keep running with it more.”
Both rappers then discuss their early inspirations and how they resulted in their path to making music for fans, and later at the 28-minute mark, Cole reminded Pump of his influence on younger music fans, suggesting that Pump’s actions can be taken seriously by some.
“There’s a percentage of those kids that might know that you’re, like, trolling in a sense,” Cole said. “Like, ‘Yo, he just doing wild shit because he knows that’s what the fuck this shit is about, that’s how you get attention, he’s just a wild dude.’ And they not taking it too serious, right?”
When asked if Lil Pump ever thinks about these effects, Pump confirmed that he does not, saying, “No, not really,” and adding that he no longer messes with “all that Xannies and all that bullshit.”
Additionally, around the 33-minute mark, Cole asks Pump about the “Fuck J. Cole” movement that blew up on social media from his and Smokepurpp’s accounts.
“So basically…I don’t know,” Pump says. “I was sitting in like a room one day and I saw in my comments like, ‘Fuck J. Cole. Fuck J. Cole,’…and that was it.” Then adding, “But now, I kind of get it because we make different type of music. So people like…They’ll feel some type of way like ‘Fuck this. Fuck that.’ I started doing it and people were just like, ‘Fuck it.'”
You can watch the conversation in its entirety above.
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